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« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2011, 07:37:23 pm » |
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Hello people... so after a lot of misfortunes and mishaps i finally could buy my first 3 dildos, my first bottle of j-lube and my first enema bag(2quarts) i've been playin with my ass for a lot of time before, having enemas with homemade "bags" and shower hoses and playing with cucumbers, soda pop bottles and the like... i never before had the pleasure of playing with a proper toy so i'm REALLY excited waiting for my dildos to arrive(the j-lube bottle and the enema bag are here already)... having said that you should then realize i'm really a noob in this and i'm having a lot of noob ideas like having a j-lube enema after all the ceaning enemas so i can be all nice and slippery inside... is this safe? any advice for a more enjoyable experiencie? or do you advice me not to do it?
all these years i have longed for this and crazy ideas ,like that have been circling my mind all this time so...
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« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2011, 07:41:48 am » |
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Hello people... so after a lot of misfortunes and mishaps i finally could buy my first 3 dildos, my first bottle of j-lube and my first enema bag(2quarts) i've been playin with my ass for a lot of time before, having enemas with homemade "bags" and shower hoses and playing with cucumbers, soda pop bottles and the like... i never before had the pleasure of playing with a proper toy so i'm REALLY excited waiting for my dildos to arrive(the j-lube bottle and the enema bag are here already)... having said that you should then realize i'm really a noob in this and i'm having a lot of noob ideas like having a j-lube enema after all the ceaning enemas so i can be all nice and slippery inside... is this safe? any advice for a more enjoyable experiencie? or do you advice me not to do it?
all these years i have longed for this and crazy ideas ,like that have been circling my mind all this time so...
I didn't see what types of dildos you bought, or if you are working on width or depth. If you are using 2 quart enemas, I will assume you are planning on going for depth. I wouldn't use j-lube in an enema. Especially if you are talking about filling a 2 quart enema bag with j-lube. As far as the safety, find the J-Lube FAQ at anus.org http://www.anus.org/SEX/jlube.htmlFirst, to be an effective lube for toys, you want a reasonably thick j-lube mix. If it is thick enough to be effective as a lube, it would take way too long for a gravity fed enema to work, due to the viscosity. Second, most of the j-lube would end up coming back out. That seems like a waste to me, and spilled j-lube is not the easiest thing to clean up. It can also be a hazard; if there is a thin film it will dry out and won't be slippery until you step on it with wet feet. If you want to inject some J-lube, get a 20 ml disposable plastic syringe. Get the "slip" type instead of the twist lock type. Then cut of the "nipple" that the needle would slide over. Now you can insert the whole syringe about 4 inches without it jabbing into you. Inject a nice thick J-Lube mix into the rectum. When you push the toy in, it will push some of the J-Lube ahead of it, like the plunger in the syringe does. A thick consistency is good especially if you have already cleaned out with an enema, since there will be some residual water in the colon. If you want more than 20 ml (that's approximately 4 teaspoons), you can get larger syringes in 35 or 60 ml. The 60 ml body is about 5 inches long and 1.25 inches in diameter (if you are going to get a slip tip to cut off). The 60 ml syringe will actually hold about 70 ml, it is just not marked beyond 60ml. You can also get 60 ml syringes with rounded catheter tips. The attached photo is from Jefferslivestock.com and shows a catheter tip. These are good for injection past the sphincter, but not as good for deep injection as the slip tip with the nipple cut off. You can get these at medical supply stores, but in some areas you may need a prescription. Disposable syringes are available from farm/livestock supply stores for veterinary use; these are fine for the intended purpose (they are even sterile, just not up to the same level of testing and quality control that ones meant for human injection are required to be). Vet supply stores have several things that are useful for fisters. Examples, lube, shoulder length gloves, syringes for lube application. http://www.fistforum.com/howto-faq/jlube-and-vagina/ another thread discussing use of syringes as J-Lube applicators. http://www.jefferslivestock.com/product.asp?pn=0029533 One source of slip tip syringes that doesn't require that you buy a whole box http://www.jefferslivestock.com/product.asp?pn=0040073 One source of catheter tip syringes that doesn't require that you buy a whole box To find other suppliers use Google to search for livestock veterinary supplies Good luck and have fun with your new toys |
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« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2011, 03:40:40 pm » |
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I didn't see what types of dildos you bought, or if you are working on width or depth. If you are using 2 quart enemas, I will assume you are planning on going for depth. I wouldn't use j-lube in an enema. Especially if you are talking about filling a 2 quart enema bag with j-lube. As far as the safety, find the J-Lube FAQ at anus.org http://www.anus.org/SEX/jlube.htmlFirst, to be an effective lube for toys, you want a reasonably thick j-lube mix. If it is thick enough to be effective as a lube, it would take way too long for a gravity fed enema to work, due to the viscosity. Second, most of the j-lube would end up coming back out. That seems like a waste to me, and spilled j-lube is not the easiest thing to clean up. It can also be a hazard; if there is a thin film it will dry out and won't be slippery until you step on it with wet feet. If you want to inject some J-lube, get a 20 ml disposable plastic syringe. Get the "slip" type instead of the twist lock type. Then cut of the "nipple" that the needle would slide over. Now you can insert the whole syringe about 4 inches without it jabbing into you. Inject a nice thick J-Lube mix into the rectum. When you push the toy in, it will push some of the J-Lube ahead of it, like the plunger in the syringe does. A thick consistency is good especially if you have already cleaned out with an enema, since there will be some residual water in the colon. If you want more than 20 ml (that's approximately 4 teaspoons), you can get larger syringes in 35 or 60 ml. The 60 ml body is about 5 inches long and 1.25 inches in diameter (if you are going to get a slip tip to cut off). The 60 ml syringe will actually hold about 70 ml, it is just not marked beyond 60ml. You can also get 60 ml syringes with rounded catheter tips. The attached photo is from Jefferslivestock.com and shows a catheter tip. These are good for injection past the sphincter, but not as good for deep injection as the slip tip with the nipple cut off. You can get these at medical supply stores, but in some areas you may need a prescription. Disposable syringes are available from farm/livestock supply stores for veterinary use; these are fine for the intended purpose (they are even sterile, just not up to the same level of testing and quality control that ones meant for human injection are required to be). Vet supply stores have several things that are useful for fisters. Examples, lube, shoulder length gloves, syringes for lube application. http://www.fistforum.com/howto-faq/jlube-and-vagina/ another thread discussing use of syringes as J-Lube applicators. http://www.jefferslivestock.com/product.asp?pn=0029533 One source of slip tip syringes that doesn't require that you buy a whole box http://www.jefferslivestock.com/product.asp?pn=0040073 One source of catheter tip syringes that doesn't require that you buy a whole box To find other suppliers use Google to search for livestock veterinary supplies Good luck and have fun with your new toys thank you so very much for your answer, yup, you guessed right i'm a depth bitch lol. to be specific i bought a dick rambone, a doc johnson's 2x12" big boy and a 1.75x18" double dong, with my enema bag i ordered a 34 french 20" colon tube ( http://www.enemasupply.com/34-french-enema-nozzle.html) and regarding the j-lube enema, i was actually planning to mix 2 quarts of water with maybe 4-6 teaspoons of j-lube to make it somewhat "thin" so i could take it with ease and i don't care very much of wasting it(after a month of experimenting with the j-lube mixing and whatnot i have used only a sixth part of the bottle and i haven't been very careful in regards of saving it, actually some days ago i had to throw a 500ml batch of very thick j-lube down the shower cuz' mom got home a lot sooner than she was supposed to lol) and i always have my enemas in the shower so the mess involved is not a big concern to me(actually is kind of funny when i try to get up from the shower and i cant because the bathroom floor is all slippery and covered with j-lube lol). oh i almost forgot... besides my enema bag, i ordered a douche with a very fun-looking nozzle( http://www.sexshop365.co.uk/catalog/relaxation-zone-64/personal-hygiene-172/storm-rider-ribbed-6-inch-free-flow-douche-11218.html)with the purpose of somehow injecting j-lube with it, nevertheless i will take your advice, go to my favorite vet store or medical supllies store and buy a syringe for any possible (kinky) use thank you again and sorry for my horrible english... i'm mexican so... lol |
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« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2011, 10:24:36 am » |
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thank you so very much for your answer, yup, you guessed right i'm a depth bitch lol. to be specific i bought a dick rambone, a doc johnson's 2x12" big boy and a 1.75x18" double dong, with my enema bag i ordered a 34 french 20" colon tube ( http://www.enemasupply.com/34-french-enema-nozzle.html) and regarding the j-lube enema, i was actually planning to mix 2 quarts of water with maybe 4-6 teaspoons of j-lube to make it somewhat "thin" so i could take it with ease and i don't care very much of wasting it(after a month of experimenting with the j-lube mixing and whatnot i have used only a sixth part of the bottle and i haven't been very careful in regards of saving it, actually some days ago i had to throw a 500ml batch of very thick j-lube down the shower cuz' mom got home a lot sooner than she was supposed to lol) and i always have my enemas in the shower so the mess involved is not a big concern to me(actually is kind of funny when i try to get up from the shower and i cant because the bathroom floor is all slippery and covered with j-lube lol). oh i almost forgot... besides my enema bag, i ordered a douche with a very fun-looking nozzle( http://www.sexshop365.co.uk/catalog/relaxation-zone-64/personal-hygiene-172/storm-rider-ribbed-6-inch-free-flow-douche-11218.html)with the purpose of somehow injecting j-lube with it, nevertheless i will take your advice, go to my favorite vet store or medical supllies store and buy a syringe for any possible (kinky) use thank you again and sorry for my horrible english... i'm mexican so... lol Let us know if you try the j-lube enema. Were you planning to insert the dildos while the 2 quarts is still inside? I generally warm my toys up in hot water before inserting, and then if I don't have any pre-mixed J-lube, I just sprinkle the powder on the wet toy, and work it with a wet hand until the grittiness is gone. This works pretty well even on non-porous toys (like silicone) that in general don't hold water based lubes very well. It would also tend to not get "washed off" as quickly, so it would keep its lube quality longer in a fluid filled colon. I haven't ever tried that, so I don't know how well it would work. That's too bad about having to dump your batch of j-lube down the drain. Have you considered putting your j-lube mix in an empty cleaned out shampoo bottle? That wouldn't be real suspicious, as long as you don't leave it where someone else would try to use your "shampoo". Or possibly a pump type body wash bottle (holding anything when your hands are wet with j-lube is tricky).  I have never seen the storm rider before. That should work, although from the review it may be a bit hard to clean. A turkey baster also works but may require a more horizontal position to inject than the syringe does. Let us know how things go with the new toys. |
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« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2011, 05:50:58 pm » |
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Let us know if you try the j-lube enema. Were you planning to insert the dildos while the 2 quarts is still inside? I generally warm my toys up in hot water before inserting, and then if I don't have any pre-mixed J-lube, I just sprinkle the powder on the wet toy, and work it with a wet hand until the grittiness is gone. This works pretty well even on non-porous toys (like silicone) that in general don't hold water based lubes very well. It would also tend to not get "washed off" as quickly, so it would keep its lube quality longer in a fluid filled colon. I haven't ever tried that, so I don't know how well it would work. That's too bad about having to dump your batch of j-lube down the drain. Have you considered putting your j-lube mix in an empty cleaned out shampoo bottle? That wouldn't be real suspicious, as long as you don't leave it where someone else would try to use your "shampoo". Or possibly a pump type body wash bottle (holding anything when your hands are wet with j-lube is tricky). I have never seen the storm rider before. That should work, although from the review it may be a bit hard to clean. A turkey baster also works but may require a more horizontal position to inject than the syringe does. Let us know how things go with the new toys. i certainly will give you all details of the j-lube enema when i finally try it and if everything goes well i will record my first sessions with my new toys as soon as they arrive, and i will up the here,i'm fucking itching with impatience i just don't want to wait anymore! and actually my j-lube enema plan was up to having the enema, i was going to let my body and X-pleasure(thank baby jesus for extasis) decide what to do next but your question gave me a good idea lol, i'll try to insert the dildos with the 2 quarts still inside and see what happens i know it is almost impossible to grab something with you hands covered in j-lube, thats why i have preferred(after some slips and coke bottles full of j-lube accidentally dropped in a stairway while i had a cucumber inside of me trying to get out and then flying out of me in a very funny way while i tried my best to not slip in the stairway while naked lol) wide mouth containers cuz i don't care very much about that snotty trace it leaves after(in some way it even arouses me, makes me think the j-lube is pre-cum from a loooooooooooooooong, throbbing tentacle ready to fuck me) oh and i intend to use the storm rider solely as a lube injector, i hope that way stays clean inside but i still don't kinow man... for the last 2 days i've been almost camping next to my house's door with impatience waiting for my toys to arrive i can't wait! i've been having salty enemas every day since my enema bag arrived(last monday) to be ready for them! my ass is craving! |
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« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2011, 05:11:28 am » |
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I have used the J-Lube enema on myself....held about a 2 pints up me....then got fisted for at least 2 hours....worked great....but was too much....found that I only need a 1/2 pint to lube my ass for hours! I also love to do shower enemas with another guy...cleaning each other out....any guys in the Baltimore area who like this....PM me !
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« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2012, 02:10:31 am » |
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I've been experiencing with enemas for some years now and I've developed a method that works best for me and takes less time. I only use a 500 ml plastic bottle (Coke bottle) with a special cap like the one in the picture : http://www.tropicanabeelden.com/gatorade/Gatorade%20images%20OLD/Gatorade%20images%2040cm/images/gatorade%20blue%20def.jpg - quite common cap that you have to pull up before taking a sip. It's thinner and smoother than the plain bottle neck and it allows control over the water flow, depending on how much you pull up on the tip of the cap. I fill the bottle with warm tap water and leave it for about 15 minutes with no cap before using it. I've red here about adding salt or soap but I've never tried anything else than plain water. I am totally against using any type of soap inside my body since soap is generally designed for external use only and it could affect the internal flora, same as too much salt which modifies the water's Ph level hardening it up so by extension messing up the normal inside's Ph level. Instead, I'm using air and water. I start by laying on my back, then I pull my knees up to my chin lifting my lower back and ass high in the air. I find this the best position that allows air and water to enter my body efficiently. Then, I open my ass up with my finger, allowing the air to enter (the porn term used for this would be gaping). As soon as I get the "full of air" sensation I insert the tip of the cap in and squeeze gently on the plastic bottle controlling the water flow. After each squeeze the bottle sucks out the air from the rectum, replacing it with the water that gets really deep given the body position, with less discomfort. I don't wait until I get the cramps or the rush to let everything out because I stop this process as soon as I see that after each squeeze the bottle sucks water out instead of air - which means I'm full. Then I push on the bottle cap to close it as soon as I remove it from my ass, hold the water inside me and head straight to the toilet. Once on the toilet, I try to hold everything inside for as long as I can which after some seconds will result in a powerful purifying explosion . 2 or 3 turns are enough to get me clean though depending on how much time it passed since my last meal or what I've been eating, sometimes up to 5 or 6 turns can be necessary. Anyway, the normal procedure takes me about 15 minutes and could extend up to one hour in some special cases. Someone was mentioning leaks long after having the enema, when he thought he should have be cleaned. That happened to me when using the shower or enema bags and I know how bad that is. When using this "air and water" enema you don't have to worry about that. Air gets in first and if you wait 1-2 minutes while gaped before letting the water in as well, most of the times air kind of hardens or dries the surfaces of every bits and pieces of unwanted stuff inside and instead of blending with the feces, cleaner water and solid pieces will flow out, as long as you'll head straight to the toilet after being full. I repeat the procedure until clean water comes out. Water based lube inserted in moderation prior to the water will make everything run smoother. I've noticed that jumping up and down a couple of times before letting it all out is effective, I have yet to try the rolling method as well. Massaging your belly in a circular motion while on the toilet also might help get rid of all the water. I've also noticed that having rapid absorption carbohydrates (bread, pasta or potato) at a meal prior to an enema can, most of the times, make everything more difficult but I only speak for myself, others might digest and process those differently. What I can tell you for sure though is that eating popcorn or peanuts even 24 hours before an enema or anal sex in general can be a REAL pain in the ass. Literally  . Also, one can't really enjoy anal sex and get past the rectum's natural functions and defecating sensation in order to achieve sexual pleasure without a proper enema. It only takes a really small trace of feces to ruin up a good anal experience and I'm not talking about the moral discomfort and shame felt in front of the giver, it's about the non-sexual feeling and sometimes even pain the receiver gets if not totally purged ). While 15 minutes would only just do, leaving tap water to rest in an open recipient for 24 hours prior to using it for an enema would be better. Even more, boiling it would be best from a chemical and bacteriological point of view. If you want to try this method but find the body position uncomfortable, you can rest your lifted lower back against a heavy object such as a wall or your bed (while lying on the floor). As you can see this method does not require any special enema equipment. You can find a plastic bottle and the mentioned type of cap at any store near you. It's faster than all the other methods I've tried and it's also safer because you cannot suffer from the high pressure effects a misused shower enema can deliver. The only pressure your bowls will take is the one their nature and the gravity will allow. Also, a shower enema will allow tap water with high chlorine levels to enter your body while leaving the water to rest in an open glass or bottle will reduce the chlorine levels considerably. For me there's no pleasure in enemas, I'm just trying to make the whole process faster, safer and more comfortable and like any other thing, this method also takes practice. Hoping this helps someone through a smoother journey into anal sex, I apologize for any possible misunderstandings due to my English... I'm trying to describe the above method in as much detail as I can although I'm not a native English speaker. I'm not saying that this is the best method for having an enema or that this will work for everyone. But then again.. it works best for me so why not give it a try and let gravity do its everyday trick? |
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« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2012, 02:48:40 am » |
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I've been giving myself enemas for about 20 years now. Never once have I paid for an enema kit, bag or solution or any of that stuff.
I can be completely cleaned out in less than 3 hrs & stay clean & ready for play for about 5 days w/o having to clean out in the mean time.
Every thing you need is at the hardware store which will cost you about 10 bucks & maybe once a year or two, another 3 or $4 at your discretion.
Here's the setup:
This works best with two handle bathroom faucets but, will work with the single ball/twist for temp type, too- i just think they aren't as easy to control to make adjustments in temp/flow.
Get a garden hose reducer, a water faucet adapter & about 12 feet of clear vinyl tubing.
Prior to purchase determine what type of faucet threads you have then buy the adapter that will fit it.
You will need some rubber washers (that fit an aerator) for the joining parts(between faucet adapter & hose adapter) as they will leak w/o them, it doesn't have to be water tight, you just don't want water spraying all over the place getting everything wet, (dribbles are ok as they will not make it past the sink)
Only other thing you'll need is to make sure your aerator on your faucet is only finger tight so you can take it off at will w/o using pliers.
That's it!, thats all you need. I'll post a few illustration pix for those interested in trying this.
this 1st pic is the hose adapter & faucet adapter, note the black rubber gasket/washers
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« Reply #68 on: January 31, 2012, 03:02:57 am » |
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Those two parts should be tightened as much as possible as that's where you can get that odd little spray shooting out from the side...use pliers or channel locks. I don't fool w/ diff. positions/laying on the floor/bed whatever(not to say I haven't tried/experimented-I have!), I just stay on my throne What I do is wait for a regular bowel movement, do my thing, then use the tube after I've naturally expelled as much as I can... I DO NOT recommend that pushing as hard as you can, idea, unless you're into hemorrhoids  just do it as naturally as possible & stay relaxed Be patient, if you want the kind of results I get, you're gonna be there for a bit. this next pic shows the hose adapter w/the vinyl tubing attached. Although the tube I use regularly is a touch smaller than this one (I'll show you in a minute) this tubing will work just fine. You screw those 2 parts together tightly w/pliers then u screw it into your faucuet, then slip the tubing over the nipple. |
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« Reply #69 on: January 31, 2012, 03:31:51 am » |
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Your tube doesn't have to stay 12 feet long,it just depends upon how close your toilet & sink are located to one another so, just long enough to go from sink, to floor with a little curve over to you in your hand, while sitting on the toilet, holding it straight up, with about 30" from tip to toilet seat, cut to length. This will ensure enough slack for however deep you want to go. Before inserting this tube, make sure you have a nice clean cut on the end you intend to insert & with a heat source (I just use a lighter & feather the flame) just melt the end just enough to smooth over the sharp,cut end of the tube, this will ensure you don't cut or scratch yourself internally (that can be bad, very bad) heat just enough to melt the sharp edge, too much heat will burn it black & will make it rough....no worries, though-if that happens, just cut that burnt tip off & start again Here's a pic of my setup with the tube length ....couldn't exactly hold the tube & take the pic I'm sure you get the idea. My setup has a little smaller tube than what I've shown you in the previous pix & it has turned white from the water spots drying inside of it over time, but its all good...the clear tube in the prev. post is about the size of you average pinky finger...a good 8th on an inch in tube thickness is recommended.....it can be a little less, but too thin & the tube will not co-operate when tying to insert, it'll fold over once it's at a sticking point. |
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« Reply #70 on: January 31, 2012, 04:03:59 am » |
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The part you screw into your bathroom faucet (once you have the two pieces tightened together & gasketed) should have it's own black rubber gasket/washer between it & the faucet, this part you only put in lightly finger tight/snug, as soon as it stops turning give it just a little more, less than 1/4th turn...too much & you'll be wrenching it out. The routine: I just insert the tube about 6/8 inches, water on, flowing @ desired temp & flow rate, fill up as full as possible w/o trying to really hold it in tight, pul the tube out, then release.....back in to 8/10 inches where I pass my sigmoid (this is where you should take a magic marker & mark the tube where it crosses the front of the toilet seat diff. lebgths for diff. ppl). This way you'll know how far in you have your tube....maybe another mark a little further down so, you can guage how deep you're going if proceeding further, etc, etc. I've had my tube in as much as the whole 30" but, I don't try or do it very often. 1, it's not neccesary & two it's not always comfortable...usually 12-15 inches for me. Just like shampoo...rinse & repeat as neccesary. Take me approx 2-3 hrs w/ a full gut otherwise about an hour+45. temperature, I use prob 120 degrees, any more than that, you're gonna make the colon swell up too much & the whole process comes to a halt as nothing can get through.....it feels really good if you can take it but, it will make you a little raw. I have more input, but i think 4 posts are enough for now if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. 1 last thing, nothing wrong w/how everybody else does it, this is just what works for me & seems to be the most simplified  |
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« Reply #71 on: May 16, 2012, 04:43:55 am » |
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Hi all, I haven't noticed one area regarding enemas that I particulary like and that is utilizing your lover into the whole scheme of things. When I am giving my lover an enema, and I persuade my lovers to try it if they never had by telling them the benefits health wise of doing enemas I have yet had one refusal, I start out with them on their knees butt up head down with one ear on the floor(or towel, pillow or?) and begin massaging their buttock and spreading their cheeks open as I continue to start probing their sphincter with a nitrile glove on lubricated with (now don't laugh) crisco. Its natural unlike petroleum products its thick enough for anal play and best of all it's cheap! Hint: using a melon ball scoop and wax paper scoop out balls of crisco after it sat in the freezer awhile and freeze them they take out as needed pop them in your ass and let them melt and lubricate yourself with a mess. But I digress back to my partner. after a lil working her sphincter up I insert the nozzle in about6"then the 2 qt bag is released slowly which is filled with any one of the following ingredients or mixture of distilled or purified water heated to about 105 degrees,coffee (organic), milk, wine (careful), tablespoon salt(sea salt)sometimes castille soap(little). now while the solution enters her I will distract her by rubbing and slapping her buttocks or rub circular motions on her lower abdomen or slap her pussy gently and all the time talking to her encouraging her telling her to breath deeply and stopping when she no longer can hold it or the bag is empty at which point I pull the nozzle out and go to her head facing her to receive some oral pleasures until she has to release at which point I leave her to herself and tell her when you finally think your finished stay there and you will have one more wave. For insurance I leave her a long thin dildo with a ball head on in to make sure all is out and clean if not do some small rinses till it come out clear. then we reverse rolls and we are good for the night in regards to anal playing. Would appreciate any feedback or hints ideas? Never to old to learn
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